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  When you read this Richard Glossip will probably be dead.

  by The Rebel in

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  how do i feel about this?.

  too much doubt.. shame on you people who are responsible for putting richard to death.. richard is scheduled to be put to death in oklahoma at 3pm on september 16th by lethal injection.

  i have followed this case and feel like so many people very bad about this.

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  What are they dong to this man.

  Two weeks ago Richard was spared the needle 3 hours before his execution.

  Yesterday it was an incredible 1 minute before they put the needle in him.

  This is the 3rd time he has been hours from death this year.

  Putting a man through this phycological torture Is diabolical.

  The new execution date is set for November 6th.

  Two days before yesterday's planned execution he lost an appeal 2/3. ( so two judges were unsure of his guilt) Then hours before his execution yesterday the supreme court also turned down his appeal. At the final minute his execution was postponed on grounds of the drugs being used to put Richard to death.

  His first conviction was over turned because the judge described evidence as " very weak" and his legal representation incompetent. ( In England that would make him a free man) Richard then refused a plea deal in which he would be a free man today, was retriled and convicted again.This man is on death role with no physical evidence against him, but based on the testimony of the killer who needed to implicate someone so he could avoid the death sentence. The police also lost/ destroyed evidence relevant in this case.

  In America I56 people have been exonerated from death role since 1975. ( Source death penalty information centre)

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  Had you thought of feeling sorry for the G.B?

  by The Rebel in

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  i only bring this to the board, because a friend of mine once said he felt sorry for the footballers who made so much money.

  that comment stayed with me, and over the years,the more i thought about that comment the more i agreed with him.. i admit the g.b destroy people's life's and are the sublimation of all that's good in people's life.

  there only excuse is a fantazy asylum they claim to believe in.

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  Ok Morpheus my new O.P is:-

  DO YOU WISH YOU COULD LOVE ALL THE PEOPLE?

  And my answer is YES, but with the G.B, DEFERRED UNTILL FURTHER NOTICE.

  But I still won't waste my life hating them, and I do feel sorry for them because they are not real men. They are pathetic and worthy only of pity.

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  Had you thought of feeling sorry for the G.B?

  by The Rebel in

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  i only bring this to the board, because a friend of mine once said he felt sorry for the footballers who made so much money.

  that comment stayed with me, and over the years,the more i thought about that comment the more i agreed with him.. i admit the g.b destroy people's life's and are the sublimation of all that's good in people's life.

  there only excuse is a fantazy asylum they claim to believe in.

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  I get what you say about your personal zen Morpheus.

  My point is I guess, well I new a man who lost his mum, dad and sister through hatred. ( He was a holocaust survivor) He had pity and not hatred for those that were responsible. I loved that man, and I try not to hate.

  As to Punks point I can't just ignore the G.B, but I have tried not to hate them or many in the organisation. I am at pity at the moment.

  If I could re-word my O.P, I would write it differently.

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  Had you thought of feeling sorry for the G.B?

  by The Rebel in

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  i only bring this to the board, because a friend of mine once said he felt sorry for the footballers who made so much money.

  that comment stayed with me, and over the years,the more i thought about that comment the more i agreed with him.. i admit the g.b destroy people's life's and are the sublimation of all that's good in people's life.

  there only excuse is a fantazy asylum they claim to believe in.

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  Ok my point of the O.P was, by resenting the G.B, the only person I am hurting is myself.

  Maybe I am selfish, but what good does it do me to fick, suit, and piss my life away hating the G.B.

  Why not just feel sorry for them and move on?

  I mean I can't just pretend they didn't exist. So I can either hate them or pity them?

  I am not wasting my life on hate I choose pity any day?

  But I also appreciate the comments that offer justified reasons why they hate the G.B.

  I am just talking about where I am in life.

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  Had you thought of feeling sorry for the G.B?

  by The Rebel in

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  i only bring this to the board, because a friend of mine once said he felt sorry for the footballers who made so much money.

  that comment stayed with me, and over the years,the more i thought about that comment the more i agreed with him.. i admit the g.b destroy people's life's and are the sublimation of all that's good in people's life.

  there only excuse is a fantazy asylum they claim to believe in.

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  Wisdomfrombelow:-

  I agree and I am not saying you are wrong. But it seems to me the G.B are going through life with a crippled heart, and I am personally glad I am not them.

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  Had you thought of feeling sorry for the G.B?

  by The Rebel in

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  i only bring this to the board, because a friend of mine once said he felt sorry for the footballers who made so much money.

  that comment stayed with me, and over the years,the more i thought about that comment the more i agreed with him.. i admit the g.b destroy people's life's and are the sublimation of all that's good in people's life.

  there only excuse is a fantazy asylum they claim to believe in.

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  I only bring this to the board, because a friend of mine once said he felt sorry for the footballers who made so much money. That comment stayed with me, and over the years,the more I thought about that comment the more I agreed with him.

  I admit the G.B destroy people's life's and are the sublimation of all that's good in people's life. There only excuse is a fantazy asylum they claim to believe in.

  So maybe my question should NOT be " DO" but " CAN" you feel pity the G.B?

  Is it possible to "PITY" these men who deliberately in my opinion spread lies and untruths? Or do you simply despise them?

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  stocks & shares

  by Sabin in

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  i just thought of something the wt is allowed to take a gamble with all our contrabutions on the stocks & shares market, but don't you buy a lottery ticket or we will disfellowship you.

  you f...ing gambling sinner you.

  who now plays lottery?

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  Witness007 " There are NO bible verses that ban gambling. Cannot justify this one"

  The Rebel: - Maybe the G.B think it's there money you are gambling with?

  I mean isnt it the little fun money you would have bought a lottery ticket with the same money you instead put in to the "World Wide FUND" box ?

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  Money, Money, Money...and Money, Money, Money

  by The Rebel in

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  i made a post of this, but feel it warrants a thread.

  in central london ( paddington) the " property management company" we refer to as jehovers witnesses, bought a church building, which is now a kingdom hall, but with the outside appearance of a church.. i got an explanation from bethel " it's just a building".

  well let's give the organisation credit for its business sence.

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  Kramer: you make some good points and I concede I was talking crap about 50 flats.

  What I would say is.

  A) The W.T bought this Chuch from the Church of England not primarily as a place of worship but as an investment. ( That to me is hypocracy)

  (B) If I were to speculate today the building would sell for between 15 - 20 million.

  (C) With preemption and speculation, that would be in the region of 40 million in only 10 years. ( Every 10 years for the last 100 years property value in this part of central London has risen over 110%,. In most of the UK property prises have only doubled every 10 years)

  (D) If I were to sell this property I would target a foreign invester like a shriek. The fact is many rich Arabs spend billions on property in this area, and often the only reason for purchase is they want it. Much of the property in London is owned by foreigners this way.

  (E) Of course the incentive to target foreign buyers would be hindered by the fact that in the last budget, the government got rid of a legal loophole and now foreign investors must pay capital gains tax on the sale of property. In short that would be 40% of the appreciation.

  (F) Many listed buildings in this area were allowed to become pubs, and those pubs have since been sold to developers and converted in to residential flats. ( So I would imagine the same would apply with a church)

  This property was purchased by the W.T, in my opinion because it was a good deal and religions get even better deals with tax on there investments. (Or should I say non tax)

  A good deal and a purchase from the wild beast, false religion...

  The Watchtoer is a business led organisation thats success was built on buying property not in the 3rd world but in the capitals of the world where property is an investment, Therefore your comment about "having to rehouse the 5 congregations" I would answer "when in poor countries many still have to share a W.T". So that is not in my mind a consideration to the W.T.

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  stocks & shares

  by Sabin in

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  i just thought of something the wt is allowed to take a gamble with all our contrabutions on the stocks & shares market, but don't you buy a lottery ticket or we will disfellowship you.

  you f...ing gambling sinner you.

  who now plays lottery?

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  Any witness who says they don't gamble, doesn't understand they are gambling with the one life they have and the odds of them being right are stacked against them.They would have more chance in winning the National lottery and they don't even play it.

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  The Elders of the congregations make for the worst possible "shepards".

  by Dunedain in

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  the main goal of a shepard, is to keep the flock as safe as possible.

  the loss of just a single sheep, could be devastating to a flock, and a shepards financial well being.

  every sheep is valuable, from a monetary stanpoint, and future strength of the flock.

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  Dunadane " The elders of the congregation make for the worst possible " sheppards"

  The Rebel. I agree, but there are the odd exceptions. From my personal experience I can think of only one.

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